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DragonSpawn · 06-26-2008, 04:14 PM

One question. Before I use the drive cleaner. Do I:

1) Install the driver cleaner. Uninstall the NVIDIA Drivers. Run the driver cleaner. Install the NVIDIA drivers off of the desktop setup .exe again.

2) Install the driver cleaner. Run the driver cleaner. Install the NVIDIA drivers off of the desktop setup .exe again.

???

**Dalo Harkin** · 06-26-2008, 04:18 PM

uninstall ALL old version of drivers - including the manual C:/ NVIDIA ones and then install driver cleaner, run driver cleaner - reboot install the latest NVIDIA driver et voila (fingers crossed)

DragonSpawn · 06-26-2008, 04:26 PM

Sorry to be a real pain. The use of the word "old" confuses me a bit. Does this mean I should do the usual. Go into device manager and remove the driver. Then it reboots, there are no drivers running, everything looks huge and messed up on the screen since it runs on the windows drivers. And then with not a single NVIDIA driver running I run the scan? Or simply I get rid of all folders of drivers except the newest 1.7519?

I had some bad experiences with drivers, I am always overcautious with them before I rush headlong into something involving them. :/

**Goku** · 06-26-2008, 04:44 PM

Please navigate to C:/Windows/Minidump and post some of the recent files as zip attachments. They may help in debugging the cause of your problem.

-- Goku

DragonSpawn · 06-26-2008, 05:32 PM

I rar'd the minidump infos. Here is the rapidshare of them:

RapidShare: Easy Filehosting

Also I'll do that driver clean thingie once someone answers my above question if I have to uninstall all stuff for it's use. Also the fact that I sat 7 hours today on the PC already attempting many things to try and fix it, I'm spent. So expect the results tomorrow :/

PS: I did show the picture of the sound and video card sharing the same IRQ slot, are you sure that isn't the issue? Or should in theory both be able to work on the same slot?

PSS: Remember a few days ago, the day before the issues started. I installed a lower quality USB headset which also installed it's on drivers onto the machine. I then out of ignorance uninstalled the realtek audio drivers. Got no sound. Downloaded and reinstalled the realtek audio, uninstalled the headset drivers.

Could that amateur slobbob job have brought about a driver imbalance that is causing the issue? Since mayhaps part of the USB headsets audio drivers is still on the machine somewhere, or the slop on/off/on of the audio drivers disturbed the precarious balance needed since the video/audio drivers share the same IRQ slot?

That is just some random thoughts of mine. Don't know if they help or not. I hope the minidumps tell you the issue.

**Goku** · 06-26-2008, 05:38 PM

Dragon, you can log off whenever you want. Just login and check your results whenever you want to. You don't need to stay awake and ruin your sleep due to us.

I am sorry but I will not be able to debug the Minidumps for you as I don't have the adequate utility and have a slow connection. I am afraid you will have to do it yourself.

How to read the small memory dump files that Windows creates for debugging

Sorry that I couldn't help you more. I will try to search more on the driver conflicts issue and post back if I have any updates. Dalo will take you from here and I am sure he will guide you through a solution. Hope you get it fixed soon.

-- Goku

**Wolfeymole** · 06-26-2008, 05:39 PM

It would be better to post the minidumps as a txt file Dragon if that is possible as not all of our team may have the capabilities to unzip rar files.

DragonSpawn · 06-26-2008, 06:16 PM

How do I post them as .txt files? Also by adequate utility you mean the .rar, want me to reupload it as a .zip?

Also can I have an answer on the "how to" in regards to the driver cleaner, before it gets burried in the other side projects?

Some pictures I hope might help:

DragonSpawn · 06-26-2008, 09:29 PM

I ran a small but interesting test. I took another game.

My screen resolution is at 1280x800. So I went into the games settings and put in the command for it to start at resolution 1280x800 in windowed mode.

The result was the game starting up like this:

I then launched the game again but with altered settings. This time I let it launch normal fullscreen, the only theoreticaly difference is 1cm less space to convert to graphics on the bottom otherwise the launches seem almost identical in terms of graphic output and power to bring about the images. HOWEVER with the fullscreen launch it crashed and BSOD'd immediately the second the game tried to launch.....

My PC seems to not like fullscreen applications no matter how often I installed and uninstalled new drivers.

**Dalo Harkin** · 06-27-2008, 07:48 AM

Dragon - sorry I was away - I do not do most nights as I have kids

Ok you need to remove the current and old drivers that you have on the system - these are located in the C drive. They are stored in C:/NVIDIA
There will be some numbers 168.00 etc if there are more than 1 thats part of the cause-
you need to delete all of them and when that's done run the driver cleaner program that will clear all of the other remnants that are hidden that you cannot remove - when thats all done restart the PC and when it reboots install the newest NVIDIA driver and see whats what.
I will in the mean time see if your card requires 2 PCI 6 pin cables or just the one.